And the beat goes on…

Attorney Flip de Mey is the author of “Cold Case Kennedy: A New Investigation into the Assassination of JFK” (2013), and the more current “The Lee Harvey Oswald Files: Why the CIA killed Kennedy” (2016). Recently, he penned a detailed analysis of the infamous “trip down the stairs” made by Vicki Adams. Titled “Oswald’s Alibi,” it’s worth the time to read. I’d be interested in your comments once you do. Because of the article’s length, please go to his webpage at:

Martha Jo Stroud


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3 responses to “And the beat goes on…

  1. Murray

    Good work and interesting analysis by Mr. de May. It may, in fact, be true that rather than any formal disposition taken by Dorothy Garner, the paragraph in the Stroud letter refers only to a comment made by Ms Garner at a meeting by Martha Stroud and Victoria Adams at the TSBD. A shame Ms Stroud herself couldn’t be interviewed about this.

    One point on which Mr. de May does seem to be mistaken is in his calculation for a time estimate of Ms Adams outside the TSBD. He takes her testimony to Belin that she ‘ran to the railroad tracks’, to mean she actually ran all the way there and back, which he estimates took 8 minutes. But in her interview with Barry Ernest she qualifies this by saying she only ran a few yards in that direction before being turned back by a policeman.

    About the missing April 7 stenographic material, it likely was destroyed. Though the fact the cover notation doesn’t actually say it was destroyed, merely turned over to the Commission for destruction, at least leaves the possibility that someone may have saved some or all of it. A faint hope. But maybe.

    • Thank you for writing, Murray. Regarding a possible TSBD “meeting” between Adams, Stroud, and Garner, consider two things. One, Vicki said it was an unaccompanied “man” who delivered a copy of her testimony to her office. She never once said anything about Stroud or an unidentified woman or even Garner, her boss, being present. I doubt she would have failed to recall such a detail, let alone taking part in a “meeting.” Two, Dorothy Garner told me as well that a “man” questioned her. And she distinctly remembered this man identifying himself as being from the Warren Commission. Based on what Garner said to me, the exchange with this individual, regardless of whether a record was kept, was a bit more official than just a casual conversation.

      • Murray

        Good points. I did recall Vicki Adams mentioning ‘a man’, but given the number of men that had previously interviewed her, I assumed it could have been a natural mistake. On the other hand, as you say, Dorothy Garner did also refer to a ‘man’ from the Commission. She also remembered that it was several months after the assassination, so the timing was right; and that the conversation was ‘brief’, possibly even by telephone. Considering that, and the fact that both women’s memory in most all instances, seemed remarkably sharp, it could certainly be my assumption that is mistaken. Always dangerous to try to change facts to fit theory!

        One thing I do wonder about, however, is why Martha Stroud referred to Ms Garner’s observation in her letter? Clearly Ms Shroud was aware of its significance. But if the information was already contained in another document to be forwarded to the Commission, why did she feel the need? (I also wondered who, from the Commission, might have been in Dallas on June 2. But of course, if Ms Garner’s conversation was by telephone, the call could have come from anywhere.)

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